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Descendants of --- de Presbyter (Prester/de Praers).


Generation No. 2


GUILLIUMUS (WILLIAMUS) JOHONNIE2 PRATER (--- DE PRESBYTER (PRESTER/DE1 PRAERS).) was born in Prob. Wales or Denmark, and died Bet. 1080 - 1130 in Eatonwater, Wiltshire Co. England. He married --- YSCITHEOR (PRINCES OF POWYS) Bet. 1060 - 1080 in prob. Powys, Wales. She was born Abt. 1066 in Welch Princapality of Powys/Powys Castle, and died in Eatonwater, Wiltshire Co. England.

Notes for GUILLIUMUS (WILLIAMUS) JOHONNIE PRATER:
Williamus John Prater (Guilliumus Johonnie de Priers) was a Shire Reeve under the Prince of Powys. The position of Reeve, in those days, was a most important title. A Reeve was very much like the combination of what we know today as Governor, Magistrate, Justice, Tax Collector/Assessor all rolled into one position. He may have also been a "Baron" of Powis. The position and word SHERIFF used today comes, from the words Shire Reeve. A shire is the English term for County. But the position of Shire Reeve in those days was much more powerful than that of todays County Sheriff.

Powys/Powys Castle

 

Williamus married a descendant of the Prince of Powys thus we can see how important his social and political standing must have been. Only nobles of the highest stature could marry into a royal house.

Brockwell Yscitheor,the "Prince of Powys" had another descendant who married Hugh Delamere (also spelled Delamare / DeMara) who was a descendant of Norman Delamere of Normandy, whose Castle was -- De la Mere (Castle of the lake) built in the early 900's on the edge of a lake in Normandy. These Delamares were the anscesters of our maternial Grandfather Sir Johonnie Delamare, who built Nunney Castle at Nunney, Somersetshire, England in 1373. This Castle went to his heirs and later went to the Paulet family by marriage. Our Grandfather George Prater purchased it from his cousins the Paulets in a tax transaction and exchange from his father, John Praters estate.

Nunney Castle

George conducted business there but his son and heir Richard Prater was the first Prater to live in the castle. Richards tomb and statue effigy is in the church at Nunney. Richard was our Grandfathers older brother. Our Grandfather, Anthony, was Trustee of the castle and estates when his brother, Richard, died in 1580.

Richards Prater and George Prater's tomb at Nunney Castle


Interior of Nunney Castle as it is today, after the Castle was lost to Cromwell's forces during the Civil War of 1645 in England

The family connection with the De la Mere family and Brockwell Yscitheor is proven by our family coat-of-Arms. Eample: In the lower section of our family coat-of-Arms is 3 wolf heads erased, Silver in color with the background of the shield in sable (black). This was the Coat-of-Arms of Brockwell Yscitheor, the Prince of Powys. Because of the "exacting" rules governing heraldry we know that the lower portion of a shield "in Chief" as it is called is an indication that the wifes family coat-of-arms is ALWAYS in the lower 2/3's of the shield. Thus Guilliumus Prater married a female descendant, of direct ausession, of Brockwell Yscitheor! A daughter or granddaughter, ect.

MORE ABOUT THE NAME ... de PRIERS ... PRATER .... PRATHER .... PRATOR .... PRAYTOR

Other spellings variations of our families name that have been found in the early English (Norman) records are: Pretor, Preytelius, Presterus, Praepositus, Presbyter, Prayther, Preter, Prayter, Praytor, Prathir, Prather, Praetor, de Priers and others may exist. One must remember; the early Norman records are mostly in a French Norman variation of Latin, but other variations of Latin also exist. The spellings also vary depending on the period in history in question.

Guilliumus Johonnie de Presbyster (Williamus John Prater or de Priers)
Inquisitions Post Mortem and Hundred Rolls of Oxfordshire, bearing in mind the possible spellings of the name Prater and its variants in Latin & English. in the Inquistions for 30 Edward I is noted Johannes de Pratellis pro abbissa et monialibus de Godestowe, holding 2 acres of land with the advowson in Great Tew (Tew Maga). This is presumably the unspecified land in Great Tew held by Raduulfus de Pratellis according to the Inquisitions of 34 Henry III (1249-50) and by another Radulfus de Pratellis of 7 Edward 1 (1333-1334). This is supplemented my the Hundred Roll of Edward I, in which Druet, de Pratellis holds 6 acres called Revelon in Great Tew @ 2 shillings per annum for the lives of himself, his wife and his son.

From: English Ancestral Names:
The Evolution of the Surname from medieval Occupation, by J.R. Dolan, Crown Publishers.

"Both the PRATER and the Reaves names mean essentially the same thing in that they belong to men of authority. They may not always have been the top man in a manor, but they were certainly close to it. The Laton word Praetor meant 'an assistant', while reeve meant "a trusted servant'. This refers to the higher "Gentry" class. (this is not to be confused with the Roman Praetorian name).

Lawmen and officials:

PRATER, PRAETER, and PRETOR have a Latin root praetor. In 1150, there was a Willelmus Pretor. He was known as either a reeve or a sheriff, because that is the job he held, but PRETER, or one of its variations was the name given to him and his family. This man is believed to have descended from the family of "de Priers" who held great riches and extensive properties along the Welch borders.

Guilliumus Prater came with William the conquerer, Duke of Normandy in 1066. He had connections with Gerald of Windsor (Pembroke Castle) & (Carew Castle). I believe he was a noble that served under William the Conqueror in the Welch Kingdom of Powis. It is certain that he married the descndant of the Prince of Powis. His desendants married a Carew (Carew Castle), and into other Noblity. Carew Castle was built by Gerald of Windsor 1109, and his heir took the name.
 

Carew Castle



More About GUILLIUMUS (WILLIAMUS) JOHONNIE PRATER:
Burried: His Church at his Manor at Eaton Water
Occupation: Noble/ Official

Notes for --- YSCITHEOR (PRINCES OF POWYS):
Yscitheor, an old Welch/Gaylic name from which the Lords of Powys used in early history 800/1100's later became De La Pole ("of the Poole"). They lived at a Castle in the Kingdom of Powys. Powys was located in central Wales and extended into severial counties in Southwestern England.

Today the Castle in Montgomersyshire, Wales is called Powis. When it was first built in the 800's it was called Welchpoole because it was located at the edge of a lake, thus the name "poole" (the Welch Castle by the poole)
The Yscitheor family that lived there later became known as de la Poole (of the Poole) and still later this name was shortened to De La Pole. This was a very powerful family that held many titles in the English Kingdom.
The King of Powys surrendered his kingdom to the Normans and the Norman King gave him the Lordship of there former kingdom to rule as a Princeapality, thus the Kings of Powys became the Princes of Powys and "held" it in Lordship for the King of England. Brockwell Yacitheor was one such "Prince of Powys". His Coat-of-Arms is 3 Silver Wolf Heads on a Black Shield. This Coat-of-Arms was made part of the Prater Coat-of-Arms which indicates that Brockwell's descendant was married to our grandfather. We do not know the name of his descendant, but we know that by the laws of Heraldry in England that there is NO doubt that she was our grandmother and lived in the early 10 or 1100's.
Her sister was married to a De La mere , who was a baron and powerful Lord, from which Sir John De La Mere descended. Sir John De La Mere built Nunney Castle in 1373. Our Grandfather, George Prater of Latton Manor died there in 1564. His son Richard Prater owned and lived in Nunney Castle, Nunney, Somerset. Richard Prater's tomb and statue effegy is in the church there.

Brockwell Yscitheor was named after one of his anscestors who was also a Prince of Powys. He was called Brockfiel (Brockwell) Yscythrog and he died in 662 A.D. His name Yscythrog is old welch galic, and means "Of The Tusk" because he wore a helmet with Horns.

Horns were called tusk in those days. He is best recorded in history for his acts against the church in Rome and in favor of the Christian Church of Wales and his attemps to save St. Davids Cathedral which is located on the tip of South West Wales. The Old Monastery stands today, with tombs that date back to the 10 Century. The Catholic Church of Rome sent a Cadinal with his large number of attendants monks, soldiers of the Pope to England to investagate the rumer of a great Christian church of Wales and to bring it under the control of the Roman Chatholic Church of Rome. The Church in Wales was also a variation of the Catholic Church but refused to subjugate themselves to the laws and practices of Roman Church.

The Roman Cardinal, angry, left and traveled with his group to North Wales where he asked for support from the King of North Wales.
Rough map of area

The King was more than willing to help him, because he had been feuding with the Kings of the Southern Welch territories and Brockfeil in particular. This King took his army to South Wales to subjugate the church of St.David. Brockfeil herd of their coming and met them with his army. Also joining him were 100 monks from St. Davids, who stayed in the rear to pray for his success. Brockfeil was out numbered 10 to one.

The King of North Wales attacked Brockfeil and killed all except Brockfeil and about 100 of his men. The Kings army even killed the 100 monks as they nelt in prayer. The King then went to St. Davids and burned the Monastery. What is so tragic about this is the fact that hundreds of years of records about the noblity and history of Wales were in its library. Upon hearing what had happened, the other Kings of South Wales came to the aid of Brockfeil and defeated the King of North Wales, but it was to late to save the Old Monastery of St. Davids. As a result of Brockfeils efforts he became known as the "Savior of Wales and Chosen of God". These events happen in 583 A.D., Brockfeil was a very young man when these events took place, he died in 662 A.D.

Brockwell Yscitheor, Prince of Powys living in 1085 was descended from the brother of Brockfeil Yscythrog. The spelling of Yscitheor was a more modern Welch galic variation of the spelling Yscythrog. (Ho is ther rog)

St. Davids was rebuilt and stands today, it is a beautiful old monastery, with many old tombs. Some of it is in ruins but the main church is still in use. It sets on the southern coastal tip of South Wales in the villiage of St. Davids.

The daughters of Brockwell were our grandmothers. One daughter married a Guilliumus Prater and the other married Hugh Delamare. A descendant of Hugh Delamere (Delamare) was Sir John Delamare of Nunney Castle, his daughter married William Prater, thus both Yscitheor daughters are in the Prater line.

Richard Prater was an older brother to our Grandfather Anthony Prater. Anthony was made a trustee of the estates and Castle at Nunney until Richards son was old enough to claim his right to inherit the estates. (6 years later) This son was George Prater, whose tomb is also located in the church at Nunney Somerset. It was this Georges son, that lost the Castle to Cromwells forces during the Civil War of 1645 in England. (research by Gary Benton Prather)



More About --- YSCITHEOR (PRINCES OF POWYS):
Fact 5: Descndant of Brockwell "Prince of Wales"
Occupation: Princess of Powys (Powis)
     
Children of GUILLIUMUS PRATER and --- POWYS) are:

3. i.   WILLIAMUS PRETOR (PRATER/DE3 PRAERS), b. Bet. 1110 - 1120, Eatonwater, Wiltshire Co. England; d. Living in 1159.
  ii.   RICHARDUS PRATER (DE PRIERS), b. Bet. 1098 - 1100, Eatonwater, Wiltshire Co. England; d. Lincolnshire, England.

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